1) Q. Will Zen N save the
A. Unlikely for a couple of reasons. First of all, a tremendous
percentage of the world's population are relatively illiterate or don't
Also Norman learned in the last 30 years that the genius
of Zen is not enough to tackle the Reactive Mind discovered by L. Ron Hubbard
and described in Dianetics - Modern Science of Mental Heatlh. There are
also other pretty brutal phenomena at the spiritual levels that are only
handled by Scientology processes. And these require the use of an e-meter and a
trained Professional Scientology Auditor.
So, while Zen N won't save the
world, it is Norman's hope that it will help direct people to the very best
solutions available at this time in our human history here on planet
Norman helps with Dianetics book sales at trade shows and while many
people passing a booth will be curious or interested enough to ask questions,
there are still many people who don't understand "the problem" we're really
dealing with and as a result, decline purchasing a Dianetics book. Norman feels
Zen N reaches some people that otherwise may never realize their potential for
2) Q. Is Norman J.
Schoonebeek a Zen guru?
A. Most experts in the faith and study of Buddhism
and Zen would consider someone who spends more time studying, practicing and
teaching traditional Buddhist philosphy and meditation, as a guru. Norman had
no desire to live an austere life as a monk and did not actively attempt to
teach others any wisdom he gained in his experiences and studies.
attempts in his college days to share with others his experiences and
understandings of life from a Buddhist perspective, did not have any success to
speak of, regarding sharing those ideas with family, friends, neighbors or
Hopefuly the book Zen N will provide the venue for Norman to
share his few concepts with those who will find them beneficial, without
requiring himself or others to struggle with the logistics of meeting in
person, on such a large scale as distribution of a book worldwide via the
internet can provide.
3) Q. Your
introduction takes a vindictive turn into a rant
against Psychiatry and Psychology. Why? Was that really necessary? It
also seems hypocritical, after having a quote in Zen N, "May my words be sweet
for I may have to eat them someday."
A. Yes, really! Most Americans,
and people around the world, are totally unaware that Psychiatry and Psychology
were founded to learn how to control people and their behavior. The research
and "treatments" they have devised were focused on learning how to have total
control over populations.
Originating from Germans and Russians, the
methodologies being used in America are not being used with the intentions to
help people with their "Mental Health", as they pretend, but to destroy our
culture and future generations.
This is very obvious if you watch the CCHR
videos "Psychiatry - An Industry of Death" and "Making a Killing".
While there are many well meaning Psychologists and some well meaning
Psychiatrist, they both ignore that emotional and mental problems are due to
issues with the spiritual being and only Scientology has the technology to
understand what those spiritual problems are and what to do about
Since Psychiatrists and Psychologists can not address treating the
spiritual being they resort to methods that do not work and cause long term
In regards to whether I am
being hypocritical, please go to Level
3 for my explanation.
3a) Q. Your comments about
the mentally handicapped people you claim Psychiatrists are mass producing
could be taken as an insulting or derogatory comment about people with mental
handicaps. Are you blaming the mentally handicapped for their illness and
A. I realize the comment could be deemed as tactless and too
blunt but the comment was a criticism of Psychiatry and Psychology, not the
people that have been victimized by their bogus therapies or theories. To solve
a problem you first have to become aware of it. And too many people are
ignorant of what the government sponsored "mental health" systems are doing to
their loved ones, friends, co-workers etc. People must wake up and "smell the
The saying, "Don't shoot the messenger" applies perfectly here.
Don't let the Psychiatrists and Psychologists convince you that I'm the bad guy
making preposterous or slanderous claims. They don't have a proven science of
the mind. Dianetics Auditors do. They don't have a proven method or technology
to handle the cause and effects of the single source of human misery, the
reactive mind. Dianetics Auditors do.
You can't afford to be fooled any
Just consider the injustice being done if over 90 percent of
children, teenagers, adults and seniors that are under the consultation or
direction of Psychiatrists or Psychologists, are being labled with bogus mental
illnesses and being forced to participate in bogus therapies. To allow this to
continue is outrageous, insane, criminal and foolish. For more go to
4) Q. Shouldn't a book about
Buddhism, a religion that's kind of like New Age, be more "warm and
A. In a perfect world... actually Zen is known for sometimes being a
bit more radical or rebellious. The best the author could do with "warm and
fuzzy" is the concept luff.
While New Age philosophy tends to have a
lot of "warm and fuzzies", Buddhism is a pretty straightforward, no nonsense
quest, aquisition and teaching of the ultimate truths about life to the degree
that such is possible without the breakthoughs that L. Ron Hubbard made with
Dianetics and Scientology.
The author went to high school during the later
part of the Viet Nam war and then saw a good number of the supposed peace
loving, New Age hippies either end up in drug rehab and on welfare or low
paying jobs or under the care of "shrinks" and on "meds" or talking the
spiritual talk while walking the material walk and cleaning up on real estate
and building their financial portfolios.
So "warm and fuzzy" had limited
value and application to the author's "real world" situations.
I don't mean to knock New Age
too much. I enjoy the art and clothing styles and certainly talk about the
spiritual world, love and peace is a very good thing. The only problem is that
it doesn't deal with head-on, the "evils" of the world and has no technology to
handle the true causes of suffering on earth. Dianetics and Scientology have
the only workable technology to handle the true causes of war, crime and
insanity... for good. It's not easy and it's not always pretty but it works.
And it's what we need to do before the mad men of the world, in power with
WMD's and powerful mind altering drugs, kill or enslave us all.
5) Q. Can the author walk
through walls or fly? Is he invincible like superman?
A. He's not telling.
Then again, what would be the fun in that?
6) Q. Is the author
"enlightened? Is the author Clear or Ot?
A. The author is enlightened in the
Zen sense of the term. There are probably various types of similar
enlightenment, so this should not be taken as a claim that the author's
experience of enlightenment is exactly the same as any other person known to
have become enlightened. With that said, religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism
and Taoism do seem to share a common understanding of enlightenment. It's not
so much how it is described because words are not the state of being itself.
By it's nature, the state of beingness of enlightenment is not easy to
explain to anyone who has not experienced it and so various different
descriptions will be found for what is assumed to be the same state of
beingness.The author is not Clear but occasionally is able to excercise some OT
abilities for better or worse. Since the author is not Clear he has not done
any official OT levels.
7) Q. Aren't you at least a
little bit concerned that the Psychiatric Pharmacuetical Coroporations henchmen
or Government goons are going to be really pissed off at you and try to mess
you up with harrassing infringments on your human rights or worse?
thought has occured to the author.
8) Q. Is there any way you
can succinctly explain the difference between Zen, Dianetics and Scientology
without evangelizing, preaching or boring us to death? We'd really like to
know, and they all seem like the same thing.
A. Wow! That's a tall order.
The enlightenment of Buddhism , Zen and Hinduism involves an actual experience
of a beingness of our true, hidden nature as a spiritual being with similar
qualities to what we consider God to have, but on a smaller scale. This is
sometimes denoted as the God beingness being Brahman and the individual beingness as Atman. When a person experiences it they have
total certainty, absolutely no doubt, about it. This is what is meant by
Dianetics is a
science of the mind developed by L. Ron Hubbard. It is an exact description of
various parts of the mind as based on their function and is the only science of
the mind that explains in detail the single source of mental aberration (mental
illness, tendancy to error, negative emotions, psychosomatic illnesses etc),
the Reactive Mind. It is the only science of the mind that has an exact
technology to eliminate the Reactive Mind, resulting in the state of
Clear. So, a person could experience Atman enlightenment, but could
still have a reactive mind. These concepts are concerned with two different
things. Atman with the soul or spiritual beingness as being found to be our
true nature or self and Clear as being in a state of being free of the reactive
is a much more advanced study of the spiritual being, (called a
thetan in Scientology), and it's relationship with the other beings and
things in life and this universe and other universes and how the spiritual
being helps create life and universes, with or without the agreement or help of
others. L. Ron Hubbard found an enormous amount of data about our past history
on earth and this universe and Scientology technology helps people recover from
traumatic experiences that have hindered and confused our quality of beingness
as spiritual beings and discovered higher states and techniques for achieving
them, well beyond the basic concept of the beingness of Atman. They are known
as OT abilities and levels.
There is a possiblility to
some degree that the Upanishads may have contained some truths about life
similar to the facts discovered by L. Ron Hubbard in his research of
Scientology but if so, the current translations do not seem to equate exactly
with Scientology axioms, data about life and the spirit and auditing/processing
Also, Scientology employs the
use of the e-meter, a sensitive electronic devise necessary to help locate
spiritual and mental moments of trauma or confusion that are hidden deep in our
unconsciousness. The computer technology necessary to make this possible to
reach the higher OT levels with great accuracy only became available in
I hope that helps. As
always, for the best and official description of Dianetics and Scientology,
visit their respective websites ( www.dianetics.org, www.scientology.org) or study the BASICS books
and lectures available at www.bridgepub.com. You can also use the official
online glossary at
9) Q. Do you still practice
A. No. TM and other similar forms of meditation have limited use. It may
be pleasant to sit and relax and reflect on events in one's life but meditation
for the purpose of attaining full spiritual freedom leads one in the wrong
direction. L. Ron Hubbard discovered the reasons for this and one explanation
can be heard in his Route To Infinity lectures.
The basic lie or myth is
that, "the answers are within." But the answers are not within since your mind
and memory, of you the spiritual being you really are, are not really in your
head or anywhere in space.
Other than for stretching
muscles, yoga presents the same problem.
Like the spirit, the mind has
no position in space or size or dimension. The current "twisted" teachings of
eastern meditaion, Psychology and Psychiatry try to convince you your mind is
inside your head, to get you introverted and trapped in your head and body.
more - Level 3
10) Q. In the introduction
first you say that Buddhism didn't explain the evil forces to you but then in
the next paragraph you mention you took an Intro to Buddhism course and say
that Buddhism did explain the mental and spiritual phenomena you had
been experiencing. This seems contradictory and it's giving me a
A. The introduction was written in a hurry and later I realized
that part could cause confusion. The Introduction to Buddhism course explained
the mental and spiritual phenomena I had been experiencing doing TM and most of
what I experienced in the near death experience. The only thing that course
didn't explain was what the evil forces were, that I experienced in the near
death experience. Scientology does explain them.
11) It seems a bit foolish to
try to compare yourself and your accomplishments to L. Ron Hubbard in the
introduction with those peculiar trivia of coincidence you listed. That seems
to be an insult to L. Ron Hubbard considering all that he accomplished and how
hard he worked.
A. That is a section I would also change or actually remove
from any future edition. But I was not trying to impress people with my
accomplishements or actions. I myself was very much in wonder at those
similarities and they seemed exactly what I called them- peculiar trivial
coincidences. Those coincidences just sometimes make me I wonder if I knew him
in my past life but I don't have any certaintly at this time whether or not I
have or not.
There is actually another coincidence I didn't remember at the
time. We both designed a symbol, logo or
monogram made from
combining our initials. You can see my original creation on the original
manuscript page opposite page 1 of Harry. I noticed my sister making one
of those, years before, and thought it would be fun to make my own. This was
long before I ever heard of Scientology or L. Ron Hubbard.
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